Victoria Jackson Didn’t Know Jon Lovitz Was Having Pretend Sex with Her During Their Time on ‘SNL’ Together

Most people would know if a coworker was pretending to have sex with them. But as we learned on this week’s Fly on the Wall podcast — and several other times over the years — Victoria Jackson is not like most people. 

When Jackson and Dana Carvey were on the show together, the cast needed several ways to relieve tension, Carvey revealed. “So much tension,” agreed Jackson. One method was gathering in the office shared by Carvey and Kevin Nealon, reveling in impromptu dance parties to the strains of the Pretenders’ “Don’t Get Me Wrong.”

Jackson had another method of relieving all that stress, according to Carvey. “You and (Jon) Lovitz would always have —  just in a PG-13 way — simulated sex.”

That was news to Jackson. “Oh, I didn’t know we were having sex, by the way.”

How could she forget? Carvey provided a reminder (and another page for NBC’s Human Resources files): “When he would bend you over and stuff.”   

“I have to tell you, I was so innocent,” Jackson said. “We didn’t have a TV, and I never saw an X movie or an R movie. So I was working out all the time and maybe I was bending over, stretching, and Lovitz started humping me. And I started giggling. Like I didn’t know that was a sex position.”

Jackson didn’t know that bending over while Lovitz humped her qualified as a sex position?

“I plead the fifth,” she insisted. “I seriously did not know at the time.”

Sensing that the conversation was entering weird territory, Carvey tried to make all of Lovitz’s fevered humping seem chaste. “It was, in its own way, kind of innocent because John is just a goofy kid, in a way.” 

“It was innocent,” agreed Jackson. “It wasn’t #MeToo movement. It was silly. I thought of it as gymnastics.” 

“That’s what I tell girls,” said David Spade, splashing the conversation with a little reality water. 

Unbelievably, Jackson claimed sexual ignorance again about a sketch in which she had her legs up in the air while Carvey’s Italian waiter thrust away.

“That was one of the biggest laughs that I’ve ever participated in,” said Carvey. “I wasn’t really doing much, it was just the situation and the build. It just looks funny.” 

“The funny part to me is I didn’t know anything,” Jackson said. “All of a sudden people come up and they go, Siobhan (Fallon Hogan) quit the sketch. You have to do it. I go, what sketch? I didn’t have any time.” In the flurry of a live show, Jackson followed the producers’ instructions: “They go, ‘Get on the table, stick your legs in the air.’ I’m like, ‘Okay.’”

But once again, the fact that Jackson and Carvey might be simulating sex didn’t cross her mind. “I don’t even think I knew that was a sex position,” she claimed. “I might be exaggerating, but I don’t know that I knew that.”